John has installed the original covering boards, has rough-fit, fastened most of the foredeck planks temporarily, and is now focusing on installing the aft deck planking.
Here he is fastening the center plank, one that is devoid of seams, bedded in 3M5200. The balance of these planks have been sanded-in to fit. John will next fabricate the seams by running them through a fixed-place router before he screws them in place, also bedded in 3M5200.
Bleaching and staining are next, followed by building coats of Pettit High-Build varnish.
As always we encourage your comments, questions and reactions.
Saving a 1968 Lyman Runabout Transom Deconstruction Update 02 09 2014
Almost immediately following the last update on addressing the transom failure, and suggesting that we could save at least two of the vertical transom frame members, RJ ran a test. Will they hold fasteners? Nope. There was just no there there any longer, so RJ set about fabricating entirely new framework for the transom.
Now it is time for what is truly deconstruction. Our Dutchman will attach to that portion of the transom we are saving with a horizontal shiplap joint. Since it is his project, RJ “gets” to man the router.
Once we clean out about 3/8” of old material, we will have created the inner half of the shiplap. Yes, we’d rather have this joint reversed with the top tab on the outside half of the transom, but trying what you are about to see from the inside is beyond realistic. We will seal the joint with Thixo Thickened Epoxy and 3M 5200, thereby ensuring zero water infiltration into the joint.
1930 Dodge Runabout Barriercoating the True 3M5200 Bottom
Our “True 5200 Bottom” project on the 1930 Dodge Runabout, the Minnow, has reached the barrier coat stage. In this clip we illustrate the foam-roller application of the second of will be five coats of Interlux 2000E Barrier Coat Primer. Five coats? Really? Yes.
In Danenberg’s words, “One of the biggest problems I’ve seen with shortcut 5200 bottoms is either a total lack of, or inadequate amounts of, Interlux 2000E Barrier Coat Primer. This two-part (thus epoxy) paint is a water barrier coat meant to keep the water from soaking into the bottom planks. It does this with minute platelets in its makeup that vastly slow the movement of water. Unlike hard epoxy laminating glues, it is flexible enough to move with the bottom.
“It is a very important part of the true 5200 bottom. It helps stabilize the bottom construction, keeping adequate moisture in the wood during extremely dry winter storage, and keeping excess moisture out of the wood during summer use. Its use is meant to stop excessive expansion/contraction that cracks open paint coatings, elongates screw holes, and buckles or cracks planks and frames.
“This product’s instructions call for a 10-mill thickness, usually 4-6 rolled-on coats (no sanding between coats), or two gallons for the average 20-footer. If your restorer tells you that 2 coats are enough, he is wrong.” (Classic Boating, September-October 2014, p. 25.)
Yes, Interlux 2000E is pricey, $92/gallon plus hazmat and shipping from Jamestown Distributors, but price and cost so often inversely correlated, and this is an example of that principal. Spend an extra $200 or so in paint now to save thousands repairing failed fasteners and planking way too soon in the future.
46 Gar Wood Ensign Planking Upate 2 5 2015
Planking will begin in full speed tomorrow, even though full speed when it comes to planking is more like plodding through waist-deep snow. Thankfully having the original planking intact is helping us, but those boards are pushing 70 years old. Understandably, they have not held their original dimensions during that time.
And, despite our best efforts, the original king plank just could not be saved. As with the rest of the foredeck planking, it became badly cupped over time, probably due to the outer side having higher moisture content than the underside, which had been painted in the factory.
For now we’ve fabricated all the blanks, and have coated their backsides with two coats of Sandusky Chris Craft Mahogany Bilge Paint (part # 9605). The deck and gunwale framing has been similarly coated.
Once they have been provisionally positioned and temporarily fastened, we release and rout Sikaflex seams in the fore and aft deck planking, after which they will be bedded in 3m5200 and fastened down for good.
68 Lyman Transom Dutchman Update 2 6 2015
RJ hit a major milestone this morning when, after finally excising all the rotted material from the lower portion of Knock on Wood’s transom, he finished fabricating the new white oak bottom frame plank.
His attention then turned to the thee upright transom frame members, each of which was rotted at its lower end, indicating that, since they were not sealed with CPES, and given how fiberglassing the exterior and plugging the drain hole trapped it, water wicked up through the ends of the planks. Two can be saved, but be sure to pay attention to the third one.
Rap it with a hammer on the outside and you get a nice dead-hit response. Given all the rest of the rot in the area, RJ probed into the end of this third frame member. His drill bit, which he held in his hand, simply disappeared 8” into the plank. It might have gone further, but there was no point in further testing. This plank must be replaced.
Bottom line: the extent of the destruction and the repair cost visited on this transom by slapping fiberglass on its exterior is mounting exponentially.
Truly fiberglass is not the friend of wood boats or their owners!
68 Lyman More on Why Fiberglassing Wood Boats is Just Plain Wrong 2 4 2015
My goodness. That bottom edge was fiberglassed within the decade and look at it now.
We must literally claw out the rotted wood, mostly using hammer and chisel since there is too little space to attack it with our Fein Multi-masters. RJ is building an ever-higher mound of black rot on the floor beneath the transom.
We must remove the interior framing, which means releasing every fasteners passing through the bottom planking and up along the transom’s sides to the waterline.
Once the rotted frames have been excised, we must carefully remove the entire transom from starboard to port and from keel to waterline. We are good at the Dutchman repair, but will be expanding horizons on this one.
Bottom line, and I rest my case, please, please do not slap fiberglass onto your wood boat. What little you might gain now will be shocked a few years hence when the damage you are almost surely inviting now erupts.
1930 Dodge Runabout 5200 Bottom Update 2 2 2015
John is fully enjoying spending 6 hours per side sanding the 3M Premium Marine filler compound flat and then fairing the entire bottom. Starboard is finished. Port will be completed later today.
His process involves sanding cross-grain with the pneumatic longboard sander with 40 and 60 grit, and then sanding with the grain using 80 grit. To go further is to rob the surface of the “teeth” needed for paint to adhere.
While he sands, I will be employing a BAHCO scraper with our DeWalt, and carefully removing residual paint from the chines to the boot stripe. Once we are down to raw wood, I will sand the surface flat.
We will begin applying Interlux InterProtect 2000E Epoxy barrier coat tomorrow morning. Five coats later, we will begin rolling and tipping Interlux Perfection Mauritius Blue to the bottom. As always, our progress will be constrained by cure times.
1946 Gar Wood Ensign Project Re Launch One Year Later
A community member dinged us for apparently abandoning keeping all of you updated on the ’46 Gar Wood Ensign since we last presented her in February 2014. Well, the fact is that there was nothing to update. Yes, we replaced many topside fasteners and filled a myriad of bung holes before we faired, primed and applied the first coat of Interlux Premium Yacht Enamel – semi-gloss whit, #202. At that, and having exhausted his preservation fund, her owner asked us to put her in storage until now.
We’ve applied three more coats of the Interlux Premium to the topsides and finished laying out the boot stripe.
Now comes the deck planking and covering boards. RJ and I worked and worked to release the planking without harming it so we could clean, seal and then install it again with new silicon fasteners. (We also had to release the planking to get at the broken framing at the four corners of the cockpit.)
Try as we may, even the slightest pressure revealed through-and-through cracks and splitting in all but four planks. Gluing them together, save for the covering boards, which will remain on the boat, proved impossible, as applying the slightest amount of clamp pressure produced new cracks. The mahogany has simply lost its integrity, so, with heavy hearts, we are replanking all but the covering boards, the center plank on the aft deck, and possibly the king plank.
1968 20′ Lyman Project Update Stem Prepaired 1 28 2015
We’ve made good progress on this 1968 20’ Lyman runabout. As of the end of work today, we will have completely stripped the bottom, removed the fuel tank in preparation for repairing the transom, and, most surprising perhaps, is that what we thought was a major stem problem is not.
As with the forward lifting rod that was removed when the king plank was replaced and never re-installed, someone had extracted the carriage bolt that had secured the stem to the knee at the point of maximum curvature. We could actually pass a screw driver between the stem and the knee, which led us to suspect we were dealing with a major through-and-through break at the point of that ugly gouge that was apparent in our initial project clip.
Not so. RJ climbed inside and found the bolt hole passing through the knee had been filled with some sort of silicone material. A similar glob issued from the stem when he drilled all the garbage out of the hole.
After packing the space between the stem and knee, and those on both starboard and port between the stem and forward ends of the strakes with TotalBoat Thixo Thickened Epoxy, we inserted a new bolt. Tightening the nut against the knee drew the stem back until it was hard against the knee. That ugly sagging is gone and has been replaced by the gracefully curving stem that Lymans are known for.
Dutchmen patches need not apply….
1968 20′ Lyman Project Begins Below the Waterline 1 27 2015
Knock on Wood is a 1968, 20’ Lyman runabout, who is powered by her original engine, and is pretty original throughout. The rub rails have been replaced and we will have some work to do on the bright work, but her hull is absolutely solid above and below the waterline, save for some major transom and stem issues.
We are introducing her to you today, and will be chronicling here progress over the coming weeks and months. Stripping the bottom and transom come first, followed by selective refastening, countersink hole filling, fairing, and priming with five coats Interlux 2000E two-part epoxy barrier coat primer, followed by Sandusky copper bronze antifouling paint.
So far, addressing the below waterline transom issues present our most significant challenges. We could simply discard and replace the 42-year-old transom with something new. Besides being hugely expensive, investing so much time and energy simply wastes money and destroys a major part of what is classic in this Lyman, original planking.
Given our penchant for saving every bit of original wood possible, we will engage a Dutchman repair strategy. The rotted and compromised wood, 98% of which is below the waterline where it will be painted, will be removed with a router to prepare a mating surface for the largest Dutchman we have executed to date. (The transom above the waterline is in great shape and can easily be preserved with one relatively small Dutchman, bleaching, staining and varnishing.)
We begin today and will report in as doing so makes sense.
As always please weigh in with your reactions, comments and ideas.